January 2010 doc.: IEEE 802.11-10/0098r0

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TGz Meeting Minutes – Los Angeles, CA
Date: 2010-01-18
Author(s):
Name / Affiliation / Address / Phone / Email
Daniel R. Borges / Apple, Inc. / 1 Infinite Loop, MS 306-2HN / +1 415 425 7347 /

Abstract

This document contains the minutes from the TGz meeting in Los Angeles, CA on January 18, 19, and 20, 2010.


TGz Meeting Minutes – Los Angeles, CA

January 18, 2010 PM2 Session

Daniel R. Borges (Apple, Inc.), the secretary, will be taking meeting minutes.

Meeting Minutes

  1. Meeting called to order by the Chair Menzo Wentink (Qualcomm) @ 1610 PT.
  2. The chair presented IEEE SA SB Patent Policy and Procedures (slides #1, #2, #3, #4 and #5).
  3. The TG members did not (a) express any knowledge of essential patents that influences TGz and (b) any concerns/issues that the WG chair needs to be aware of.
  4. There are 6 members attending this session.
  5. The proposed agenda is found in document 10/0083r0.
  6. We are currently working on comment resolution on our first sponsor ballot. This document is 09/1185r1.
  7. There have been some submissions that will be discussed during this week.

a.  10/0082r0

b.  09/1218r7

  1. 10/xxxxr0 – yet to be assigned a document number.
  2. 10/xxxxr0 – yet to be assigned a document number.
  3. Looking at the comment resolution document, 09/1185r1.
  4. The goal is to review the remaining comments; they are highlighted in yellow in the current document.
  5. We will review the current submissions, since it addresses some of the comments on the TGz letter ballot.
  6. The first contribution to review is 10/0082r0. Menzo is going over this submission with the membership.
  7. No discussion or comments from the membership.
  8. Moving onto the next contribution, which is 09/1218r7. Menzo is going over this submission with the membership.
  9. No discussion or comments from the membership.
  10. Moving onto the next contribution, which is work in progress. This is a result of comments from Henry Ptasinski (Broadcom) that need to be resolved. It addresses silent discards during the security negotiation.
  11. Menzo will continue working on this document; it needs some work on finding appropriate status or error codes for the given messages. We will use existing status codes where appropriate and create new ones if necessary.
  12. There were no comments from the membership.
  13. Menzo would like to report some good news. Michele Turner reported that the TGz draft does not contain editorial or grammatical errors.
  14. Menzo points out that we need to address some fixes in the MIB so that it compiles. There are a few minor compilation issues that we need to address in this sponsor ballot.
  15. Moving back to the Silent Discard contribution, since Henry is now in the room. Henry will look at status codes that could be used for some of these messages. The group is actively working on this contribution so we can get it finalized.
  16. Henry and David Hunter (Panasonic) are working with Menzo and rest of the group on this contribution.
  17. The group is reviewing all the cases to make sure they are all addressed and no information is leaked in the process or either responding to messages or silently discarding them.
  18. We cannot have <ANA> numbers in the status code table. Menzo will work with the 802.11 work group to sort out the numbers that should be used in this table.
  19. We are done with this contribution. Menzo will get a document number and put this contribution on the server. We will be later on voting on the comment resolution spreadsheet that references this contribution for some open CIDs.
  20. The document number for the TDLS Status Codes is 10/0105r0.
  21. The group continues to work on comments on the TGz sponsor ballot. Menzo uploaded the comment resolution spreadsheet with the changes and work done today, 09/1185r2.
  22. The group will continue to work on comment resolution in the next session.

January 19, 2010 PM1 Session

  1. The chair has called the meeting to order @ 1335 PT.
  2. There are 7 members attending this session.
  3. There is no fixed agenda for today’s slot. Menzo has been working with Ashish Shukla (Marvell) on updates to the TDLS discovery document. Menzo hopes to finish this document today 09/1218r7.
  4. The security contribution, 10/0105r0, was worked on yesterday and has been finalized. Since Jouni Malinen (Atheros) is with us today, we will spend sometime reviewing this contribution.
  5. Moving onto some administrative work – approving the minutes from the Atlanta face to face meeting in November 2009.

Motion 1: Approve the TGz Atlanta Meeting Minutes

Mover: Yongho Seok (LG Electronics)

Second: Daniel R. Borges (Apple, Inc.)

Result: Unanimous

So moved and approved

  1. Menzo believes that we will not need any conference calls between now and the next face to face meeting.
  2. After this week we will release a new draft that addressed all the current comments.
  3. Then the ballot will take 2 weeks. We could start a recirculation ballot 3 weeks prior to the next face to face meeting. Menzo believes that we will need 3 cycles for the sponsor ballot period. The group spent sometime discussing the schedule and task group official timeline.
  4. The group is discussing some options for teleconferences, in case it is necessary. We are looking at Thursday February 18, 1400 EST.

Motion 2: Appove TGz Teleconference

Mover: Jouni Malinen (Atheros)

Second: Daniel R. Borges (Apple, Inc.)

Result: Unanimous

So moved and approved

  1. The group will be working in adhoc mode; no objections from the membership.
  2. Menzo has recessed the session at 1507 PST.

January 20, 2010 PM1 Session

  1. The chair has called the meeting to order @ 1335 PT.
  2. There are 3 members attending this session.
  3. Menzo is going through document 09/0082r1 that addresses the TDLS capabilities bit.
  4. The group is going over the technical document and remaining comments on our sponsor ballot.
  5. Menzo proposed that we operate this session in adhoc mode; there were not objections from the members in the room.
  6. Menzo has recessed the session at 1804 EST.

January 21, 2010 PM1 Session

  1. Meeting called to order by Menzo @ 1335 PST.
  2. There are 17 members attending this session.
  3. Menzo is showing document 10/0083r1 that contains the agenda and the submissions to be discussed.
  4. Menzo is projecting document 10/10124r0 that addresses a comment from Henry Ptasinski (Broadcom).
  5. Henry reports that Lily Chen (NIST), the author of one of the security features, is fine with this submission and with this latest version.
  6. There were no comments or objections from the membership.
  7. Next submission is from Qi Wang (Broadcom) found in document 10/0126r1.
  8. Menzo is providing a brief overview of this submission and the changes that will impact the draft.
  9. There was no comments or objections from the membership.
  10. Moving onto to the next submission we need to discussion with Matthew Fischer (Broadcom).
  11. There is discussion on using the correct unit/tally for the awake window.
  12. This document does not yet have a number, but Menzo will request a document number for this submission.
  13. The document number is 10/0168r0.
  14. Moving onto the next submission 09/1218r7, TDLS Peer Discovery.
  15. Menzo was just double-checking if this document was correct and references were address properly.
  16. The old example on TDLS discovery has been removed.
  17. Moving onto the sponsor ballot comment resolution spreadsheet 09/1185r2.
  18. Menzo proposed that we operate this session in adhoc mode; there were not objections from the members in the room.
  19. Menzo has uploaded the latest sponsot ballot spreadsheet with all the resolutions and references to the submissions; the latest edition is 09/1185r2. Menzo has added the column with the official unique IEEE sponsor ballot ID.
  20. Moving onto the motion to approve the comment resolution spreadsheet.

Motion 3: Comment Resolution

Mover: Clint Chaplin (Samsung Electronics)

Second: Daniel R. Borges (Apple, Inc.)

Result: Yes 8, No 0, Abstain 1

So moved and approved

  1. Next motion is to approve a recirculation letter ballot given the spreadsheet has been approved.

Motion 4: Recirculation Sponsor Ballot

Mover: Matthew Fischer (Broadcom Corporation)

Second: Henry Ptasinski (Broadcom Corporation)

Result: Yes 8, No 0, Abstain 0

So moved and approved

  1. Clint Chaplin (Samsung) asked who was the editor, Menzo confirmed himself as the editor of TGz.
  2. With no other business, Menzo has adjourned the session at 1508 PT.

TGz Meeting Minutes - Los Angeles, CA page 1 Daniel R. Borges, Apple Inc