February 2008doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/0241r1

IEEE P802.11
Wireless LANs

Post SB Recirculation #4CRCommittee Meeting Minutes
Date: 2008-02-07
Author(s):
Name / Affiliation / Address / Phone / email
Ganesh Venkatesan / Intel Corporation / 2111NE 25th Ave, Hillsboro, OR 97124 / 503 334 6720 /

[802-11WG] 11k 2008-2-7 Teleconference at Noon Eastern Time

Thursday, February 07, 2008

9:06 AM

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The next 11k teleconference will be 2008-2-7 Noon ET (9am PT) and will address the following topics:

SB Recirc #5

11k D12

MIB Discussion

Conditional "Draft to REVCOM" Report

Topic: IEEE 802.11k

Date: Thursday, Feb 7, 2008

Time: 12pm, ET, 9am, Pacific Time (GMT -8, San Jose) Webex Meeting

number: 821164406 Webex Meeting Password: rrmmeeting Teleconference

Number: 866-752-6974

Passcode: 9710856

At the scheduled meeting time, click the following link to join or start the meeting:

Richard H. Paine

TGk Chair

Cell: 206-854-8199

IPPhone: 425-373-8296

Email:

Attendees: Peter Ecclesine (Cisco), Joe Kwak (InterDigital), Ganesh Venkatesan (Intel Corporation) and Richard Paine (Boeing)

Meeting Notes:

  1. The TG members did not (a) express any knowledge of essential patents that influences TGk and (b) any concerns/issues that the WG chair needs to be aware of.
  1. Report submitted to EC on the Friday of the plenary meeting -- a report of all negative comments and how they have been handled.
  1. Discussion of CID #5 (recirculation #4) -- summary of discussion with Terry Cole. When the draft is submitted to SA staff for publication, the task group gets to submit an errata. The SA staff may or may not fix all issues identified in the errata. The SA Staff also can talk to the TG Technical Editor for further clarification. No standard is error free and a maintenance release will pick up any known errors.
  1. Draft #12 is in recirculation #5. This is a recirculation with no changes. The recirculation ends 2/15/2008.
  1. We would like to compile a list of MIB errors and have them listed in the errata. MIB descriptions requires each description line to be limited to 52 characters. So fixing the MIB is a lot of work
  1. There are still questions on the Response status in the fancy report. Should the Response Status be C? This fancy report will be preliminary pending discussions with David Law.
  1. How should the Fancy Report be sorted? Comment number, sub-clause, page/line numbers? Page/Line is not reliable. Sub-Clause is a good choice. Although Clause does not add any new information, Clause/Sub-Clause is something the EC members are used to. Can we consult a EC member that knows what is expected. Action Item for Richard/Peter. Peter volunteered to get this information.
  1. The CRCommitee finished the meeting at 12:08 Noon EST.

11k 2008-2-14 CRC Teleconference at 12:00 noon Eastern Time

Thursday, February 14, 2008

9:10 AM

Subject / 11k 2008-2-14 CRC Teleconference at 12:00 noon Eastern Time
From / Paine, Richard H
To / Joe Kwak; Roger Durand; Brian Hart (brianh); Paul Gray; cisco - Peter Ecclesine; Joe Kwak; Venkatesan, Ganesh
Sent / Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:31 PM

The SB Recirc #5 concludes at 2359ET on 2008-02-14. The 11k CRC teleconference will be 2008-2-15 11:30am ET (8:30am PT) and will address the following topics:

SB Recirc #5

11k D12

Conditional "Draft to REVCOM" Report

Topic: IEEE 802.11k

Date: Thursday, Feb 14, 2008

Time: 12:00 noon, ET, 9:00am, Pacific Time (GMT -8, San Jose) Webex Meeting

number: 821164406 Webex Meeting Password: rrmmeeting Teleconference

Number: 866-752-6974

Passcode: 9710856

At the scheduled meeting time, click the following link to join or start the meeting:

Richard H. Paine

Success is getting what you want, happiness is liking what you get!

Cell: 206-854-8199

IPPhone: 425-373-8296

Email:

Attendees: Joe Kwak (Interdigital), Brian Hart (Cisco), Richard Paine (Boeing), Roger Durand (RIM) and Ganesh Venkatesan (Intel)

Meeting Notes:

Discussion of the Report to EC:

  1. SCC14 comment -- one comment was received stating "everything is OK" and "no changes are required". An acknowledgement will be sent by TGk chair to SCC14.
  1. Robert Aboba's comment from a LB that was carried over to the SB by Richard Paine. Several NO comments that were not resolved in LB were carried over to the SB by Richard Paine.
  1. This specific comment deals with the fact that the MIB does not compile.
  1. No comments were received after the close of the Sponsor Ballot Recirculation #5.
  1. Negative Voters (their comments and resolutions to them) -- All valid comments have been recirculated. There are 2 invalid (resubmissions of comments that were rejected in the previous recirculation by the same commenter) comments that were received recirculation #5.
  1. No substantive changes have been made since the last draft (D12.0) in recirculation #4 and again in recirculation #5.
  1. No SB Voter changed a vote from "Approve" to "Do Not Approve" in any sponsor ballot recirculation.
  1. Conditions for consensus have been met. At the end of recirculation #5 the affirmation was at 95%. In recirculation #5 no new comments within the scope of the recirculation were received.
  1. Copies of all unresolved negative comments from "Do Not Approve" voters and their comment resolutions from the SB and its recirculations are attached to this document. No votes were changed subsequent to the end of Recirculation #5.
  1. The 2 comments associated with the SB recirculation #5 negative vote do not require recirculation because the commenter is not commenting on unresolved comments, but on previously rejected resolved ones. Two comments received from a "Do Not Approve" voter in recirculation #5; these two comments and the corresponding resolution (attached here) do not require recirculation. These two comments are not new comments within the scope of recirculation. The 2 comments are resubmissions of the same comments (recirculation #4) and not based on changed text for this recirculation (recirculation #5).
  1. Add a statement to the abstract -- "IEEE 802.11k SB recirculation #4 balloted D12.0. Recirculation #5 is a recirculation with no changes to D12.0."
  1. This report will be available for review by the CRCommittee (CRCommittee meets on Friday 11:30 EST)
  1. CRCommittee meeting ended at 13:20 EST.

Friday February 15, 2008

Subject / 11k 2008-2-15 CRC Teleconference at 11:30am Eastern Time
From / Paine, Richard H
To / Joe Kwak; Roger Durand; Brian Hart (brianh); Paul Gray; cisco - Peter Ecclesine; Joe Kwak; Venkatesan, Ganesh
Sent / Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:31 PM

Attendees: Peter Ecclesine (Cisco), Joe Kwak (InterDigital), Brian Hart (Cisco) and Richard Paine (Boeing)

Meeting Notes:

  1. The CRC meeting began at 11:30 ET.
  2. The TG members did not (a) express any knowledge of essential patents that influences TGk and (b) any concerns/issues that the WG chair needs to be aware of.
  1. Continued work on the letter to REVCOM until 12:15 ET
  1. Reviewed the two comments received in recirculation #5, and responded to both as recorded by the Chair.

Motion-1:

Move to approve the resolution to recirculation #5 Comment 2 REJECT. This comment is not a new comment within the scope of this recirculation. This commentand the approved resolution will be forwarded to the SA editor for consideration prior topublication. The proposed change is entirely and exactly the work to be performed by theeditor

Moved Joe Kwak, Seconded Peter Ecclesine

Roll call vote Approve 3-0-0 Motion passes

Motion-2:

Move to approve the resolution to recirculation #5 Comment 1 REJECT. This comment is not a new comment within the scope of this recirculation. This commentand the approved resolution will be forwarded to the SA editor for consideration prior topublication. The proposed change is entirely and exactly the work to be performed by theeditor

Moved Joe Kwak, Seconded Brian Hart

Roll call vote Approve 3-0-0 Motion passes

Discuss the next steps for The Chair and Editor to meet REVCOM and ExCom calendar requirements

  1. The CRCommitee finished the meeting at 12:49 Noon ET.

Submissionpage 1Ganesh Venkatesan (Intel Corporation)